rear end wanted

[bigmac]

im afraid my 35 rear end is about to go out in my TJ. im in the market for a 44 rear end, maybe an 8.8 my ratio is 3.73 but i gess i could always get them swapped, i want to go to 4.10 anyway. tired of messing with this POS 35. the ected locker im gessing was never set up right by the shop and thats where my problems come from i gess. by the sound of it, its only getting worse.

[hadfield4wd]

I'd start calling junkyards. There is the one in Lynchburg that Jon likes. That would be your best bet for a wrangler 44. And bolt in. You'll have to know the model and year that had the d44 and aks for those.

The 8.8 is a fantastic axle. But you'll need brackets, unless the ones off your 35 can be salvaged. Also .75" spacers.

Auto salvage and Sales in vinton is decent too.

[Hokie98zj]

i used old dominion auto salvage when i was looking for axles.originally went with an 8.8 that i picked up for not much over 100 bucks.also picked up a 231 for about 70 bucks.

[hadfield4wd]

Good deal right here.

http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85688

[bajonesy77]

I just talked to the guy i got my 8.8 off of and he said he has 1 or maybe 2 more of them. He has to check to make sure they have calipers, rotors and brake lines on them and told me to call him tomorrow . He wants $150 if it is complete, if not he will take less.let me know if your interested and the axle is located in covington. Later, brandon

[hadfield4wd]

I go to covington about once a week. I could pick it up if you want.

[bigmac]

first i would need to know what gears are in it... and then ill have to worry about buyin the brackets and all that... this is a really complicated issue. im just scramblin to find a solution before my rear end craps out. im lookin to go to 4.10 gears, and stronger axles than the 35 for as cheap as possible. 150 sounds great for that, but wont the brackets etc. run me up another 300$?

[hadfield4wd]

first i would need to know what gears are in it... and then ill have to worry about buyin the brackets and all that... this is a really complicated issue. im just scramblin to find a solution before my rear end craps out. im lookin to go to 4.10 gears, and stronger axles than the 35 for as cheap as possible. 150 sounds great for that, but wont the brackets etc. run me up another 300$?


Yep.

http://claytonoffroad.com/product_info.php?cPath=17_46&products_id=127

TNT has a nice truss but it will be in the $500 rangs

Plus doing the claytons kit you should get rid of the trackbar. Go to a triangualted 4 link. so control arms may have to be lengthened.

It's not very complicate, you just need to open up your wallet.:D

Axle swaps just aren't cheap.

Any axle you buy you should at least replace all the seals, brakes etc.

Total swap will the in the $1000 range for a rear. That's without buying a detroit.

My recommendation is again start calling junk yards looking for a tj D44 rear. Or look on Pirate. And various other places. Be patient and you'll get one from somebody who has stepped up.

[401cj]

you can do an axle swap cheap but you have alot of careful work to do. when i did the swap when i had my 99 tj, i cut the original brackets off n welded them onto the 9 inch. never had a problem, and anyone who saw me driving knows i break just about everything.

[bigmac]

brandon, are they 4.10 like the one you bought? if they are complete with calipers and rotors i would definitely be interested, let me know ok?

[bigmac]

and another thing, do any of you have experience changing ring and pinion gears? my front is a 3.73, so my 4wd will be out of commission until i can have the front changed. i really want to go to 4.10 so im gonna try and put in the 4.10 rear now, and get the front done asap.

[bajonesy77]

the one i got was supposed to be 3.73 lol so i will count the r+p to find out for sure what gears are in it. I will let you know when i find out.

[Hokie98zj]

for sure check out the off-road forums you are on for deals.i was lucky and bought my hp30 and 44 already built.they are out there.if i find an 8.8 or 44 close by,i will let you know.

[hadfield4wd]

you can do an axle swap cheap but you have alot of careful work to do. when i did the swap when i had my 99 tj, i cut the original brackets off n welded them onto the 9 inch. never had a problem, and anyone who saw me driving knows i break just about everything.

Very true. If you can save your brackets it will be alot less expensive. But you'd still have the rear trackbar. Going to a kit will remove that because the uppers can be triangulated. And based on what he is saying I don't think he welds so he'll have to pay somebody for that.

And yes the way Dave drives make me look gentle.:driving:


brandon, are they 4.10 like the one you bought? if they are complete with calipers and rotors i would definitely be interested, let me know ok?

Chuck at Salem auto service will do the labor. He does a great job. If you remove the axle, shafts etc he is around $100. You just take him the empty axle. Good deal.

[bajonesy77]

he has 2 8.8 both have rotors but no calipers and hes gonna call me on the gears. Said $100 each.

[bigmac]

do i need to be worried about what calipers to get or are they all the same for 8.8 axles? might seem like a dumb question but its hard to sort through the thousands of gigs of information on google. looks like i need to get emergency brake cables and all that crazy jazz as well?:sSc_eek2:

[bigmac]

whats with 4.09 4.10 and 4.11? what the hell is the deal here? is that .01 difference crucial? when i throw an 8.8 in the rear do i have to be careful that the gear set that i throw in the front matches up to that .01 difference?

[evolution]

do i need to be worried about what calipers to get or are they all the same for 8.8 axles? might seem like a dumb question but its hard to sort through the thousands of gigs of information on google. looks like i need to get emergency brake cables and all that crazy jazz as well?:sSc_eek2:


im sure that the calibers wont be the same for all 8.8's just like the 30's in the jeeps..

and the gears, im sure that someone here will have the tech on that but no its not goin to make the diff. in the gears from 4:11's to 4:10's.. now if it was 3:73's or something off like that it wouldnt work..

i know that in the pro mud boggers they use a diff gear matching set to run in the mud..

[bajonesy77]

do i need to be worried about what calipers to get or are they all the same for 8.8 axles? might seem like a dumb question but its hard to sort through the thousands of gigs of information on google. looks like i need to get emergency brake cables and all that crazy jazz as well?:sSc_eek2:
all 8.8 with rotors from explorers are the same 96-2001? i think, I was able to modify my d35 emerg. cables to work and the .01 gear differance works perfectly fine:D Check out this site I know its for a yj swap but its great info.http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html

[401cj]

the 4.10 to 4.11 has to do with what gear ratio is available for that axle 9 inch has 4.11, dana 44 is 4.10 all the same. some competition rigs even run different gear sets in the front then the rear to help with turning. ive ran 410 in the front n 4.56 in the rear but not in four wheel drive. only 2wd til i got gears changed. as long as thye are close in gear ratio you will have no problem. 4.10's 4.11's all the same.

[bigmac]

brandon do you know any more about those 8.8 axles? maybe what model and year ford it came out of or what condition the rotors are in? if i could get them turned instead of replacing them it would save me some cash