evolution's 97 jeep tj

[evolution]

heres my build, this is my third jeep in year and a half.. it has a 3" lift with one inch spacers, 1" poly body lift, 8000lb winch, the typ. jeep that everbody that has one of these has.. nothing special right now.. i am getting around to get to build some of my own stuff now.. the sliders are made from 3/16" plate and the bumpers that i make are made from the same.. i did get my corners made and the rear bumper and the tire carrier... a lot more is goin to come as soon as i get time to make stuff.. i do have 5.5 rubi springs coming that im goin to 4 link the rear and maybe three link the front..

[1984jeep4x4]

Thats nice goood work and good idea's.

[evolution]

heres my other play toy that i built.. 88 yota with 500hp 350 and 46"s.. and it will burn them off, i got i trouble with the popo last sept. with it..lol:harhar:

[Chevy kid]

Lets wheel that toy

[evolution]

heres some pics of my new front bumper in working on today.. i still have a few pieces to biuld of it but i'll have it done my sun.. i still havet to get some running lights and mount them inside the bumper on the ends..

[cootees]

Bumper looks good. Hopefully later this year I will have the money and means to get you to put your fab skills in my runner.

[xjmudman96]

nice work on that bumper man. It looks rock solid<

[evolution]

yeah its tough, made from 3/16" metal and although it looks big and and bulky i made it where its like the jk's bumper mounts.. where they have the flat plate welded on the front of the frame..makes a super easy mounting for a bumper..anyway its only 1 5/8" thick off the front.. and will have winch mounted on it and the steering box skid mounted to the bumper..and under the bumper i have a place to remount my neons back under it..yes i have neons on a jeep. they make great rock lights at nite plus they cool.. lol

[xjmudman96]

Neons? Actually that sounds really cool. :thumb: I really like the bumper, to buy one simular for an xj it's like 6-8 hundred bucks:sSc_eek2:!!

[evolution]

yeah i like them, but some buddies make fun of them..had a few choice words for them..can say.. but they show off all the other side off the jeep when you need to work on it at nite and its not in your eyes like off road lights..and the reason i put them on is for rock lights when im wheelin at nite.. but the bumper, for one like this one i charge some where 350 to 400 painted and installed...but this one has a lot on it...when i make one for someone i tell them to find one they like to have and i build it close to what it is.. but stonger...i made one like the big bull bars for full size trucks for a ranger a week ago.. it turned out really good..i may get mine powercoated once i get my jeep done.. it will be black for now thou..

[Scrambled]

Im liking the bumper man :2thumbsup:would like to check out that show truck some time.

What bender are you using ? I'm in the market for one.

Later
Sean

[evolution]

thanks....the bender that im using right now is at the shop i work at, its a eicolina tube bender.. its about a 10 grand machine.. as soon as i save my pennies im goin to get a tube shark.. the one i want its 5200 with the dies i want.. i have the bumper welded, painted and back on the jeep with the winch but i goin to do so waterjetting this week on the stingers tie in pcs on the top.. make a maltese cross cut out and put them in the centers of the stingers and i have a plate on the bottom i still havet to make.. the license plate sucks!!!! but it will wrap with the bumper bc. if i dont to it now it will be done later... and still havet to get some running lights to install in the ends of the bumper...

[evolution]

cootees .....Bumper looks good. Hopefully later this year I will have the money and means to get you to put your fab skills in my runner.



what kind of stuff you looking to do on the 4-runner?

[evolution]

scored some good stuff on craigslist.:wings:... i bought re superflex lower arms front and rear with the flex joint in the ends and teraflex 4" front and rear springs for 300 with the shipping included. he sent me pictures and everything looks brand new. they will be here tomorrow!! lord knows i needs the arms!!!:2thumbsup:

[evolution]

well, i scored the RE adjustable front and rear upper control arms for the jeep today on craigslist.. they will be nice... heres some pics of potts sat evening...:2thumbsup:

[evolution]

heres some pics with my rear arms on.. the front was put on right after...

[Scrambled]

Looking good man!:thumb:
Cant wait for a Potts trip with you.:driving:

Later
Sean

[evolution]

started on the cage on my jeep yest,:2thumbsup: got one pc in last nite and goin to have it most the way done on thurs, all but the down tubes at the dash.. i want to have a lil bit more of a cage around the kids before the 6 hour ride to the beach... with the carnage of jeep wrecks of my buddy's and my nefu, i hoping the bad luck bug hasnt rubbed off on me.. so working extra hard on getting this done before i leave on fri. evening:wings:

[evolution]

well, guys
made it back from the beach... it was great... i loved driving it on the beach..never got stuck, seen plenty of them thou... havet to check all my joints now becuase of the salt water...pulled a 4x10 trailer down, the only thing i didnt like was the way the jeep acted with the detroit in it.. let off the gas it goes left, get back in the gas it goes right... but it pulls really good... they had rent a jeep down at curtuck beach and i just checked to see how much they was... 185$ for 2 1/2 hours of riding...could not beleive it... i will get some pics of the cage tomorrow.. im goin to put some more pcs in it and pull it and paint it the same as the jeep...mount my 2 chrome fire ext..

[evolution]

:wings:....Well, goin to get the next step of the project... goin today to get a waggy so i can use the 44 front, the rear im putting it in a cj-7 for a buddy..and i bought a 9 inch over the weekend to put in...
go get some gears and lockers in them so i can put them in this winter...

[Scrambled]

Congrats on the axles bro. Looking forward to seeing the brackets etc. done EVO style. :thumb:

Later
Sean

[evolution]

got the front 44 sitting in the garage, goin to tear it down this weekend and start getting things cleaned up, still looking for a set of flat top knuckles for it,(hint,hint) the 9 in ia all apart and havet to start making spring perches for it and getting the lenght of axles, get them ordered.. still aint made my mind up yet on the gears i want, or the locker..
may see bout getting up with derek this weekend and do some measuring on the tummy tuck pan..
why its down i goin to tear out the trans because im having noise coming out of it, get it rebuilt..
get rid of the stock cage and build a full cage for it..

[Scrambled]

OK OK hint taken. LOL Flat tops are here waiting on you bro when you venture off the Mt next let me know bro.

Later
Sean

[evolution]

thanks cuz, i'll ive ya a call!!:2thumbsup:

[bajonesy77]

looks good! I really like the front bumper!

[evolution]

well, the mistress is goin to be put on hold for a lil bit, still goin to put the 44 front and the 44 rear in it and long arm it but not in no rush to get it done.. im goin to leave the jeep a dd for now on, just a potts runner or something like that...

goin to get another project sat or sun:wings:... goin to make this one my new play toy.. will havet to do another post on it when i get it.... :2thumbsup:

[evolution]

well, i didnt get the other project.. it was a pc of crap.. but ohwell..

i received my new rustys track bar thursday and put it on fri.. its sweet..

still on for the 3 link the front and 4 link the rear, just dont know when im goin to put the new axles under it..

[evolution]

well, im still putting my other axles but just not right now...
i picked up some used but new yukon rear chromoly axles for the 35...thanks brandon!!:thumb: yeah yeah i know its junk but its better then the stock ones... put some new studs in them and slap them in..
goin to be ordering my dom for the long arms in a couple of weeks and get started on it after i get done with some others first... goin to make up a 1/4" thick belly up pan, and some tube fenders..

[RUkered]

Are you still putting a 44 in front and rear? Are the chromos just to get you by until that's finished?

And you need to get up here and get that belly pan measured soon! Actually, I need to get up there soon and see my family (lived here 5 years and have yet to drive up and see them). If that happens soon, I'll throw the belly-up in the back and give you a call.

[evolution]

Are you still putting a 44 in front and rear? Are the chromos just to get you by until that's finished?

And you need to get up here and get that belly pan measured soon! Actually, I need to get up there soon and see my family (lived here 5 years and have yet to drive up and see them). If that happens soon, I'll throw the belly-up in the back and give you a call.

yeah, i need to get over there and measure that thing, whats it been 6 months... lol...:yup:
yeah im goin to put the 44 waggy front over it still, but when i do it i want to have some type of locker in it and i havet to regear them both.. and the 9 in rear i need to get axles and locker too.. these are just to get me by right now, its a wonder i havet broken the rear already...

[evolution]

well, i have the rear 5.5 rubi springs and have the two front springs supposed to be shipped to me late this week so i can start on the long arm.. goin to try them but keep the 4in springs just in case its to top heavy or if i dont like it..but we will see...

tranny coming out asap too...making too much noise

[evolution]

order the jb conversion sye today and will be in fri.. tranny coming out fri and both goin to my buddy down the road and rebuilt..

ordered my dom tubing for my 4 link and be here weds..

tring to get it done before crozet..:2thumbsup:

[evolution]

well, tranny out and shipped down the road.. new clutch goin in.. and getting the fly wheel turned monday.. already decided on some changes im goin to do besides the old plan...:2thumbsup:

[evolution]

also just got done gutting the interior and sanded down the inside ready for a coat of bed liner..:2thumbsup:

[evolution]

well, heres the update plan that im doin...
already have cut the front fenders for the new tube for the flat fenders and 3" flair to keep it legal..just havet to find some marker lights
the rear, toke the flares off, alum corners and making new full wrap around 3/16" plate with the 3" flare welded the plate..also i have found new led oval flat tail lights with the back up lights in them too..
designed the belly up pan and printed it off for build this week, thanks to derek...:2thumbsup:
new rock boat side rock sliders are goin to be made..
and maybe a new style bumper but not at this time, before crozet
goin ahead and doin my steering with the tons tie rod ends..
new clutch, flywheel and rear main seal hopefully to be put back in tomorrow...

thats some what of the new plan, goin to be a lot of work....:wings:

[evolution]

well, heres some pics of some the stuff ive got done so far..

today, toke bottom half of the motor apart to replace the rear main seal.. its a pain.. but it had a small leak that wasnt goin to get any better.. fly wheel back on and ready for the clutch......even there isnt much time for me to get everything done, i aint cutting no short cuts. cleaned and painted the oil pan...

[Scrambled]

Progress looking good bro.:2thumbsup: Need some pics of the mini boat side plans. What are you making the tube fenders out of? 1.5 DOM, HREW, or schedule 40 pipe? You planning on keeping the inner fender wells? Much better off keeping the wells if you plan on driving the Jeep and not just trail rig. Me and the family be up next Sat. Looking forward to the car show.:yup:

Later
Sean

[bajonesy77]

well, heres the update plan that im doin...
already have cut the front fenders for the new tube for the flat fenders and 3" flair to keep it legal..just havet to find some marker lights
the rear, toke the flares off, alum corners and making new full wrap around 3/16" plate with the 3" flare welded the plate..also i have found new led oval flat tail lights with the back up lights in them too..
designed the belly up pan and printed it off for build this week, thanks to derek...:2thumbsup:
new rock boat side rock sliders are goin to be made..
and maybe a new style bumper but not at this time, before crozet
goin ahead and doin my steering with the tons tie rod ends..
new clutch, flywheel and rear main seal hopefully to be put back in tomorrow...

thats some what of the new plan, goin to be a lot of work....:wings:
Thats gonna be a well armored jeep for sure! :D

[evolution]

got some more done today, clutch installed.. and started on the fenders, there not done by no means.. adding a 3in flare to the sides of them and then let a buddy do the paint work to color match the body.. :2thumbsup:

[RUkered]

Looking great Chris. Can't wait to see the finished product. I'll probably be hounding you about a set of fenders for mine before too long.

[evolution]

well, i was lucky on my trans.. it was only the main front bearing that was goin out.. have one on order, hope to have it back in by tues or weds.. sye came in today and dropped of for install..

goin to work in the morning and making my corners and sliders bend up and the 3in flair for the front fenders.. hope to have the fenders done on sat.. just havet to get my lights for my signals and markers before paint..

[evolution]

was able to get everything made today, til i was drafted for work... oh well it was a good trade thou.. heres some pics of the parts and the tube flare put on.. its a 3 1/2 it flare.. still have to skin it..

goin to work on it til i fall over tonight and see what i can get done...:2thumbsup:

[hadfield4wd]

Looking good. What are you using to bend the heavy plate?

[evolution]

i work at a machining and fab shop.. so we have just about everything.. 3 brake presses. 1 600 ton 16 foot long, it will bend 1" plate 90 degrees 10 foot long.. and 2 cnc 400 ton 12 foot presses...:2thumbsup:

[bajonesy77]

i really do like the mini boat sides......hint hint . :) lookin good

[evolution]

i really do like the mini boat sides......hint hint . :) lookin good

the can be maded... since you have the very first set of sliders i have made... lmao....:harhar:

[evolution]

rubi springs are under the rear and all the brackets is cut off the frame in the rear... making up the lower brackets and get the lower links installed tomorrow.. fenders are done too... just need weld and paint now... well and some maker lights..

[evolution]

jeep has been put on hold for a couple of weeks til i get my back better, i believe i got everything to get it back together with, new nitro skyjacker shocks and stainless lines... ups brung me my new tom woods drive shaft today( won a 100$ off at bigdogs last sept..)

go tomorrow to pick up my trans and transfer case, after we load it up with a engine lift to put on my truck...

[bajonesy77]

sorry to hear about your back hope it gets better quick

[evolution]

thanks brandon, it was better today to where i was able to get something done..

was able to get all the panels and sliders cut out and taillights cut in the rear..

got the axle grinded on and the chromoly axles installed.. im goin to make my own style of rear end cover and get rid of the junk that was on there...

[evolution]

well, heres some new pics of the jeep and my new taillights...:2thumbsup:

[rubican!]

WOW man i love the armor and the tail lights thats awesoem dude. Love watching this build.

[evolution]

WOW man i love the armor and the tail lights thats awesoem dude. Love watching this build.

yeah i wish i had more done... ready to go wheeling....:thumb:

[evolution]

heres a yota that im building at the time meaning too... its got to get done asap also....

[Scrambled]

We had talked about your design ideas for the armor and rear flares. Pics look great man they turned out awesome. :2thumbsup:

[rubican!]

man i have to get you to design some for my jk!!!!!

[bajonesy77]

Armor is lookin tuff and the lights are sweet dont think Ive ever seen them before! keep up the work and get r done.

[VTCRAIG]

Coming along great Chris. The corners and tubes look perfect! nicely done.

[evolution]

yeah, im doin it lil different than what everybody elses is when you buy these things... it will be lil bit more of a pain, but the sliders and corners are together one pc... i was able to get the drivers side done today, i got to put my tire carrier on and get my tabs welded on for it and pulling them off and goin to clydes house and get a nice coat of matching paint.... then jerk the fenders off for the same...

should be able to get started back on the tranny and lift again this week... i hope... :D

[hadfield4wd]

That yota is really Orange.:sSc_eek2:


What is the thickness of your side protection? Do you know how much they weigh?

[evolution]

That yota is really Orange.:sSc_eek2:


What is the thickness of your side protection? Do you know how much they weigh?

yeah theres a lot of orange on it... too much prrreeeettttyyyy...:rotflmao5:

the sides are out of 3/16" c/s.. before i put the tubes on it im goin to say 20-25 pounds or so... i say total with the sliders and tube would be some where around 60-70 pounds, just awkward to handle by myself...:yup:

[hadfield4wd]

yeah theres a lot of orange on it... too much prrreeeettttyyyy...:rotflmao5:


Well the attention to detail is amazing. When I worked at the resto shop the amount of tedious work is astronomical.



the sides are out of 3/16" c/s.. before i put the tubes on it im goin to say 20-25 pounds or so... i say total with the sliders and tube would be some where around 60-70 pounds, just awkward to handle by myself...:yup:

Not as heavy as I thought. But they are kinda big and awkward.

[evolution]

Well the attention to detail is amazing. When I worked at the resto shop the amount of tedious work is astronomical.

yeah it gets a lil tring to where you got to be so careful putting it back together..but if it wasnt for these show trucks i wouldnt be doin what im doin i say....lol


Not as heavy as I thought. But they are kinda big and awkward.

yeah, but once off and painted they wont be coming back off... i hope..and i dont havet to worry bout getn a scratch on it....:rotflmao5:

[evolution]

the panels was surprisingly not that bad, i took them off by myself to weld them.. im goin to say around 40 pounds... i also was able to get the tranny and transfer in by myself and it sucked..... but its in thou....

[Scrambled]

Progress looking good my friend. Where did you get the LED lights and what are the dimensions? They look like a perfect fit for Kay's Commando.
Be sure to use a digital flasher with the lights if you dont already have one. Without it your turn signals are gonna look like strobe lights.:sSc_eek2:
Easy plug and play swap for most older rigs, TJ might require a lil mod to whats there if I remember right.

Keep the pics coming bro!:2thumbsup:

Later
Sean

[bajonesy77]

the panels was surprisingly not that bad, i took them off by myself to weld them.. im goin to say around 40 pounds... i also was able to get the tranny and transfer in by myself and it sucked..... but its in thou....
Thats how backs get hurt! :harhar:

[evolution]

Thats how backs get hurt! :harhar:

yeah i know.. but get tried of waiting on people sometimes...lol



well got to have everything ready for paint on thursday, goin to get a new fresh coat of paint.... cant wait.....:wings: one more step to getting done..

[evolution]

Progress looking good my friend. Where did you get the LED lights and what are the dimensions? They look like a perfect fit for Kay's Commando.
Be sure to use a digital flasher with the lights if you dont already have one. Without it your turn signals are gonna look like strobe lights.:sSc_eek2:
Easy plug and play swap for most older rigs, TJ might require a lil mod to whats there if I remember right.

Keep the pics coming bro!:2thumbsup:

Later
Sean

and yeah im goin to havet to get one of them digital flashers, its goin about 90mph... so i will check one tomorrow... thanks pal...

[evolution]

aint got to work on it for a while, but i was able to get a lot done today in 3 hours of work...

axle truss welded on and put the axle back under the jeep and squared it up and was able to get the upper 4link bars tacked into place.. took and ran it thru the twist, turns and tucked in as far as i could take it and the truss never touched..

i also was able to get the tranny belly up pan into place to see where i need to run some gussets on it..

i also changed my mind on the front 3link.. got to thinking if i cut up the 30 front mounts off then come this winter when i put the 44 under it i wont be able to sell it because all of the are gone.. 30 front with 4:11s go for 300 plus.. so im goin with the design just like rubicon express long arm.. plus saves me some time.....

i cant wait to get this thing done....:yup:

[evolution]

all the body work is done and painted all the body panels this weekend to match the body... ive got the front fenders back on and put the other on tomorrow....

[evolution]

the rear link bars are on and tires is under it, need to mount shocks and weld tabs on, got to order the rear brake flex line... belly pan is 75% done and the front is up and tore apart for front link bar brackets and bars...

[bajonesy77]

damn this is gonna be nice :droolfactor10: if you need help putting stuff on holla.

[evolution]

damn this is gonna be nice :droolfactor10: if you need help putting stuff on holla.

yeah ya need to ride up and see it... i hoping having it done this weekend......:wings:

[evolution]

heres some pics, two more days and she will be on the road:wings:

[VTCRAIG]

looks nasty man! :2thumbsup: I love the color matched tubes. I bet you will love your new ride with the long arms also.

[evolution]

got it back on all fours, just needs a lil bit more to do to it...:wings:

[hadfield4wd]

I like it.

[RUkered]

Looking good man. When are the 50's going on? :D

[79CJ5]

Looks awesome!!!!

[VTCRAIG]

Man, I forgot how high those 5.5" coils sit...looks closer to 7.5" from those pics. You planning on bigger meats to fill up that space? Keep up the good work though man. Looking forward to seeing it on the trail :driving:

[evolution]

nah, man.. not til i get my other axles under it then maybe 37's.. but not before i wear these out and the wife lets me.....lol

brandon stop by today and seen the progress, always good to have a jeep guy around...

not much left to do

front and rear brake lines
tighten all the link bolts
install the skid pan
make and weld on new rear shock tabs
reinstall my tire carrier, and interior back in
install front driveshaft...
do some paint work..
couple hours of work.. hope to drive it tomorrow....:wings:

[bajonesy77]

First off these led tail lights are sick! chris pointed out some of the details of the custom work he has done and its just crazy, its the little things and details that make this such a cool custom tj that he has built.

[evolution]

got the jeep done today, still havet put the driveshaft in and do some lil things with the belly pan...
man, this thing is great now, flex's like hell, rides lot better, and handles a lot better than the stock mounting trailing arms.. goin to need to get some limiting straps for the rear.. took and flexed it and i took out the rear spring and put it back in...lol.. i will havet to take some pics of everything i did and post it up...

drove it to town to watch the fire works and it did great, lil shimmy about 40, but think thats just because i need to line it up...its funny to watch the wife get up in it, 5'4 short legs... get a nice laugh...lol

[evolution]

been driving it the last two weeks and a noise is just keep getting better... not....come to find out the sye bearing the transfer case is goin out... nice.. so back out again for it and tear it down to make sure nothing else is goin bad.. but on a good note, i worked on it today and sanded all my winter salt rust down off my bumpers and repainted everything.. now im sure im goin to get teased on it being a mall crawler... on the trailer tomorrow to go to seans house, yeah i said trailer.. but she aint no queen...i already got one of them....

[4x4Dalton]

Nah it's just takin a break and wants to show off a lil...lol

[evolution]

was able to play on the rti ramp yest.. jeep flexs pretty good for the first real time since ive gotten it done... need some limiting straps thou in the rear..:yup:

[Scrambled]

The flex,fit ,and finish on this build is impressive! Chris look into longer front brake lines ,your real close to the limit with the front flexed out. Text me Tuesday and i wil have the info on the rubber sheeting we talked about to put between the body and the armor.

You still need price on getting the drive shaft redone?

Later
Sean

[YJeXtreme]

Jeep looked awesome man, for Driveshaft work, I'd check out Slim at Driveline Fabrications in Boonesmill/Franklin Co, or Ted at Fleetpride. Slim did the shortening on mine in the wrangler, and Ted has done several for my antique cars.

[evolution]

tore down the tranfers case to see whats goin on with the knocking that i have since ive done everything, found a shifting fork that was already wore.. believe that was my fault.. fixed it and put it back in yest.. guess what still there, all the bearings looked good and turned good without any marks in the bearings.. im thinking it maybe in the driveshaft... got an help coming over this weekend.. hope we fig something out..

[evolution]

narrowed the problem down the driveshaft cv junk the tom woods sent me.. goin to try another driveshaft here in a few and see what happens..

[evolution]

talked to tom woods himself today and hes making me a new shaft as soon as he gets my driveshaft back in utah.. i hope to be wheeling in two weeks... got to order my signal lights for the front before i get pulled over too...lol

[evolution]

i got my new radio for rubican yest and installed it.. works great.. one of the first rides i had with scc had bout 10 miles of nothing but dust and it got into my old radio and the dust messed up the cd part of it... skipped all the time.. thanks matt

[evolution]

well, got some work to do now since the first run on it..i really need limiting straps now.. rear spring fell out at rocker rock... need my new steering, and my new rustys offroad track bar tie rod that bolts to the frame is ready to come out of the socket.. thats not good!!!

[hadfield4wd]

my new rustys offroad track bar tie rod that bolts to the frame is ready to come out of the socket.. thats not good!!!

Thats an added feature that comes with most rustys track bars. No extra charge.

[bajonesy77]

Thats the worst added feature Ive ever seen! even if it was free!

[evolution]

well, im just goin to buy one at napa and fix it myself and its goin up for sell as soon as i get back from bigdogs...i dont like the feature either.. aint goin to be pretty if it breaks goin down the interstate...

[RUkered]

Sorry to hear about the trackbar man. Which radio did you get? I think I'm going to have to get one soon for the same reason. I think between moisture from leaving the top down every night, dust from Uwharrie, and sand from the Outer Banks, mine is on its last leg. It skipped like crazy on the way home yesterday.

But it's hard for me to justify the price of a new unit when I have so many parts left that I need to buy to finish building the Jeedlkjwelklklklklllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllll

Sorry, I passed out from laughing at "finish."

[evolution]

the radio was one i bought used from matt, i beleive it was a alpine..and the track bar i just bought a new joint form napa to replace the rustys, didnt worry bout the sending it back....

plus i bought all my new chevy ton tie rod ends for the new steering im puting on as soon as i get back from the beach...
ordered my limiting straps for the rear.. 24".. rear spring fell out on potts on me, dont want the to happen again..
plus ordering my front locker asap too..

[xjtrailrider]

Get a head unit that is iPod compatible, just hook it up and go and the iPod never skips

[bajonesy77]

I just use a mp3 player with a battery powered fm modulator I got from walmart for like 10 bucks http://www.walmart.com/ip/Scosche-FM-Transmitter/14666784 and it sounds great thru the stock am/fm tape deck...plus for security reasons who wants to steal a stock jeep tape deck anyway lol

[evolution]

ive been working on the jeep a lil bit, got all my high steer working on tonight.. one ton chevy tie rods.. ive made both rods from 1 1/4" 5/16 wall tubing we had at the shop and drilled the ends out to 7/8-18 for tapping, thanks Brandon for the use of the taps!! had to work on the front long arm mount bolt because it was getting into my driveshaft lil bit...just lil bugs to work out...but i hope to have just about everything covered by the end of this weekend, may if i have time to move the rear upper spring mount back to where my spring is straight up and down....:2thumbsup:

[evolution]

also ordered my front pocket locker tonight too....

[evolution]

well i ordered my locker from ebay, i was goin to try the new spartan locker from yukon... but when i got it in today it was the richmond lockright.. dont know what happened on the guy i ordered it from.. still goin to try to find out.. but i least know that i wont have any problems with the lockright.... i have already put it in and ready for the oil...

[bajonesy77]

with a Lockright or aussie you couldnt go wrong!

[evolution]

well, its been a bit since i posted...

i was so sure bout the 5.5 rubi springs.. was thinking it was goin to be to top heavy.. first trip on potts, i thought i was goin to roll it over at rocker rock... come home and ordered some limiting straps for the rear before bigdogs.. plus my front locker.. come home drove it down the road, decided to take it out.. the jeep does so much better with the limiting straps so the springs dont keep falling out and it just does better. i believe im goin to keep the springs under it for now..

next its time to start working on my other axles for the swap...

[evolution]

having problems with the re rubber bushing already... goin to order new ones.. and goin to change up the front bumper and stinger a lil bit...

[jhowery]

having problems with the re rubber bushing already... goin to order new ones.. and goin to change up the front bumper and stinger a lil bit...

:2thumbsup:

I didn't bother installing the RE rubber on the CJ, went straight to poly...

[evolution]

:2thumbsup:

I didn't bother installing the RE rubber on the CJ, went straight to poly...

wonder if the poly will fit the re bushing eyelets?

[evolution]

havet worked on the jeep yet but i did pick up a 72 f100 9in rearend... there wasnt a tag on it, so i will have to tear it down and see whats inside...it is 56 1/2 from backing plate to plate.. same as my waggy front..

goin 4:56, locker? any suggestions? its a dd 95% of the time..

[Scrambled]

Are you staying with the 35's for now Chris? Aside from going through the brakes,an axle rebuild kit, and a locker I wouldnt do much else till you step up to the 37's. Then look into a set of chromoly shafts. There's a few reasonably priced disk brake kits out there for the 9" as well if you decide you need it. Hadfield has a cool yoke gaurd on his but you will have to ask him where he got it as I have no idea who made it.

Cant remember if your rear suspension set up has a truss on it or not but its another thing to consider. Check racejunk .com for a used detroit for the axle.

Post some pics when you get around to making the tabs bro .... I start drooling and turn green with envy everytime you say water jet or plasma table!!! :bowdown::bounce green:

[YJeXtreme]

I got a set of disc brake brackets I'll loan you to make a template out of to reproduce... they're for the big-bearing 9" Ebay also good source of used detroits. I've seen rebuilt race unit detroits for about 150-250. I said to hell with it and just spooled mine.

[hadfield4wd]

Make sure the housing is a big bearing and the 3rd isn't a WAR casting. My yoke guard is a Great Lakes Offroad but there is one that doesn't hang down as much that I like better. Although it would be more difficult to pull the d-shaft.

[evolution]

yeah its a big bearing axle.. and war casting? how do i find that out?

[hadfield4wd]

yeah its a big bearing axle.. and war casting? how do i find that out?

"WAR" will be cast on the side of the casting somewhere. The best is the nodular 3rd. There are some factory ones which are kind of hard to find. I actually have one of those on mine.

[YJeXtreme]

Yea the WAR housings... some love 'em other hate 'em, they have a low nodular iron content. Mine actually broke driving out the pinion support bearing.... Factory nodular iron center-housings normally found in mid-late 60s mustangs, fairlanes w/ bigblocks. Hard to find an original though, and just as cheap to buy aftermarker for one... When you pull the center section from the housing it'll be samped with WAR on in the inside. They also have dual ribs on the casing but no "N" stamped in between the ribs... 72 should be a standard housing not WAR, but it coudl've been swapped at some point. I can't remember the production years off hand rightnow... if you got anymore questions let me know or post up pics... Fords are my thing ya know... lol

[hadfield4wd]

go figure my factory Nodular case came on the F100 I pulled the axle from. In fact its the one with the large bearing races so I could put 35 spline axle in without machining. I didn't go looking for it. I'm just lucky. I didn't even realize I had this until the gears and lockers were installed or I would have gotten 35 spline off the bat.

[evolution]

i looked at the 3rd member and i did not see war anywhere on it..or is it inside the housing? anybody have a pic where it should be?

[hadfield4wd]

http://www.ultrastang.com/Page.asp?PageID=11

[evolution]

ah.... cool.. thanks i will read it..

[Scrambled]

Great source of info Matt thanks! Chris any details on the new RE bushings they sent you?
Also need info on the johnny joint your looking for . . . any particular size and do you want the weld in bung as well?

[evolution]

Great source of info Matt thanks! Chris any details on the new RE bushings they sent you?
Also need info on the johnny joint your looking for . . . any particular size and do you want the weld in bung as well?

well, i was goin to make a trackbar but i found a clayton hd for sale with few miles on it, may get that one.. not happy with the rustys trackbar.. and the re bushings? im not sure what they are now.. they said it wasnt rubber or poly, abd i didnt really have time for him to explain what they was.. he said this was a new style of bushing since so many people was have so much trouble with the first rubber style..

worked on the jeep last night and got the upper rear links rebuilt and back in, and also worked on the steering.. the guys that went with me to bigdogs saw what i was tring so i would havet to cut up the front axle any.. it didnt happen.. so i ended up cutting it anyway and making it right...

[Scrambled]

Chris here is the info you wanted to slow down the LED turn signals.

Modding your own is pretty easy this guy did a great write up. Ive done a few of these and always add a lil dialectric over where the circuit was cut.

You can also just buy theTridon or Trico EP-26 flasher they have in the article it doesnt require any mods just plug and play.:2thumbsup: Make sure it has LED on the casing though.

http://www.stu-offroad.com/electrical/led1/led-3.htm

Here is an e-bay link to the LED friendly flasher as well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tridon-EP26-Flasher-New-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem33634eb3afQQitemZ22070 9434287QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

[evolution]

ok, thanks sean i will look into them..

after running the factory marker light in the front i finally gotten around to mounting the right one in my fenders that i wanted in there.. heres some pics

i used the factory marker lights off the fender flares, also put on some daystar swaybar bushings one... the factory ones was shot..

[bajonesy77]

Looks real good :thumb:

[hadfield4wd]

Chris I like it. I love the plate.

[evolution]

i got a new magnaflow cat and straight threw stainless muffler for the jeep a couple weeks ago... thanks to phillip... cant wait to get it on there and get the junk i have on there off.. goin to sound great...

[YJeXtreme]

I got a universal 4" stainless cat, and 2chamber muffler from Phillip too, sounds awesome on the jeep, has a nice rumble especially at idle for a 6cyl...

[hadfield4wd]

Mine is from Phillip as well. It fits and is exactly what I need size wise, as I have very limited space do to the traction bar. However it's a little loud for me. I went in trying to get a quieter one, however he was unable to find one that also fit in my limited space. So I put my magnaflow back in. It's a great muffler and it really has taken a beating.

[evolution]

picking up a new set of yukon 9in 4:88 gears fri from a guy in fincastle... tring to start getting everything ready for the rebuild and swap of my axles!!!

[hadfield4wd]

I will be in covington on wednesday. I can bring them so you don't have to pay shipping. And I suspect I know the guy in Fincastle or at least I know a guy in Fincastle who has a set of 4.88 9" yukon gears.

[evolution]

I will be in covington on wednesday. I can bring them so you don't have to pay shipping. And I suspect I know the guy in Fincastle or at least I know a guy in Fincastle who has a set of 4.88 9" yukon gears.

i thanks ya matt.. but i told him i would pick them up fri evening and give him cash..i say its the same guy.. thanks thou man..

[Scrambled]

Did you get the gears from DC Chris?

[evolution]

Did you get the gears from DC Chris?

yeah.. i will pick them up fri

[hadfield4wd]

The funny part is those gears I originally bought for my build. I then changed my mind to 5.13's and he took them on trade back. Never installed.

[evolution]

The funny part is those gears I originally bought for my build. I then changed my mind to 5.13's and he took them on trade back. Never installed.

yeah thats what he said.. never installed.. just got to find a set for the front now..

[evolution]

well i found a great deal on a hard top on noke craigslist.. picking it up on fri.. bought it for 300 bucks.. lil faded but no biggie...

[evolution]

picked up my hard top last night.. had to carry the thing bout somewhere around 200 feet to the truck and up a steep bank, over a fence to get it in the bed.. just me and wife and the women had to carry it... but its a very nice top.. just needs paint inside of it because its white....post pics later when i get it n my jeep..

[evolution]

well, when i built my rollbar i built it to the measurements to a buddys hard top, well it lacked 1/2" of bolting on... that sucks.. so i had to break out the ol potorband and cut the rear hoop out..olwell i didnt like the rear hoop anyways..

[hadfield4wd]

That stinks. But with a couple slugs it can be repaired just as strong.

[evolution]

well yeah but i really didnt like that part anyways.. i was in a lil hurry tring to get one in there before i took the kids to nags head 2 years ago.. so since i got a hard top now i will fit a new rear section of cage in there..aint nothing but metal... they make it everyday..lmao..

[evolution]

my new hard top..

[bajonesy77]

Looks good!!! needs some tint on the side windows

[evolution]

got some new mangaflow exhaust on the ol'jeep today... sounds good and already running better... thanks phil for the muffler and cat..

[evolution]

i got bored last night so for so reason i decided to go out and polish my wheels on my jeep... unfortunately i ran out of polish so i have two on one side done and two on the other not.. and i got to use the jeep today to go to baseball practice.. hope nobody notices to much..

[evolution]

been getn a lil tried of the steering here lately.. its made with ton ends and set up with crossover into the lower pass. side tie rod end.. i have a dead spot in the steering and with a dd everyday its starting to suck.. driving it to tenn on the 14th and im not goin to fight it.. so im goin to park it and fix it before i go and make it like the u-turn steering systems..

[evolution]

been getting the jeep ready to go to tenn for a weekend with the wife.. removed the hard top and redid the rear section of the roll cage and painted it.. put new led marker lights in the front fenders. painted all the frame and got rid of that ugly *** orange i had under there.. painted the long arms blue.. still got to get the steering worked on..

[evolution]

ordered a anti rock yest and today ive already had to tear out the tranny for another rebuild.. bearing goin out..

[Scrambled]

Sorry the trans is giving you a fit again bro. Any more thought on the nv3500 swap we talked about?

[evolution]

yeah its something i can look into after i get it back on the road.. i just need it back together.. gas in that ol ford out there likes it lil more than my jeep...lol

[evolution]

well after replacing the clutch and throw out bearing that went bad, i bought an anti rock and put it in last night.. got lucky and just cleared the bumper where i have it made like a jk style bolted connection.. looks like it was made for it...lol

[evolution]

its not good when you pull the rear diff cover and find this...:ops::jaw drop:

[evolution]

http://www.tntcustoms.com/fronttruss-wagoneerd4480.aspx

goin to be ordering my front truss for my 44 without the upper mounts and im goin to 3 link the front i believe. im not really sure if it will be more capable goin with 3 link than what i already have.. sean and jt already have seen what the tj will do and how much flex it has, so im not sure.. i dd this thing everyday so was wondering if it will be a hand full with the 3link.. never did a 3 link before.. just 4 link setups.... i already have my Detroit locker, 4:88 yukon gears for the front and rear. will be ordering a pocket locker for the 9in also.. the only reason im goin with the truss and not making everything myself, the way im used too, is i just have way to many projects for everybody else im working on... 93 ext.cab yota with a sas.. and a 50 rat rod..not to much time for my own junk...lol

[hadfield4wd]

that's a nice truss. You won't have a problem with the 3 link.

[evolution]

yeah thats what i keep researching.. its pretty easy to build but not sure if i will be gaining anything by doin it compared to what i already have..

[hadfield4wd]

In a 3 link (3 control arms and a panhard) you really have no binding issues. In a 4 link (4 control arms and a panhard) there inherantly will be binding. Putting more force on the joints, bolts, etc. On a double triangulated 4 link you'll have more torque steer. Honestly I wouldn't touch what you have. It works.

And quite frankly have you ever been denied an obstacle because your front suspension isn't working as best as it could be. I suspect not. I do have this problem but I have radius arms that unload when climbing so all my traction is on the rear. I'll put a 3 link in someday. I would fix the thing that is keeping you from clearing obstacles before I cut up a suspension that works. Plus it's not like you're sitting around with nothing to do.

[evolution]

well, today was a fun day... it sucked in one way but better in the most part... parts is goin to be ordered for the axle swap came this week to get things rolling on my axle swap... on the mountain at drews place and coming thru a new trail i was the only one that decided to trash a rear axle...lmao.. hour later we was one the road again coming out because i brung the wrong axle side as a spare...lol it happens... who cares...lol just to show me even more that the 35 isnt so tuff.. but even with this 21/2 years of wheeling ive only broke once and today was it....had fun thou.. cant wait to go back....

[evolution]

have a guy that wants my factory axles now so its time to get moving on the axle swap....

tomorrow the 9in locker is ordered, tnt truss is ordered, and shop on some chromos for the rear...

scored on a chevy 44 axle.. knuckles out has been totally rebuilt with zero miles and knuckles are drilled....all i havet to do is make a set of shackles for hes cj...lol think i came out good..

goin to make the high steer arms on the water jet at work...

[hadfield4wd]

Switching to pass drop?

After what I've done no way would I put a 44 in the front. Marginal strength increase.

On NC4x4 there is a D60 and 10.50 complete for sale for $600

[evolution]

nah man, goin with the chevy knuckles and just keeping everything 6 lug..

and tater diggers? yeah be nice if i was goin to 40's and beatn the piss out of it every other weekend but i dd my jeep everyday and only goin to 37's so the 44 and 9in will hold up just fine.. plus there not full width either so i aint got to cut them down..

[hadfield4wd]

You have a 6 lug 9"?

[evolution]

goin to..lol ordering chromos for it hopefully today and having them drilled six lug..

[evolution]

what everybody think bout these wheels on my jeep?

http://www.jegs.com/i/Black-Rock/262/909S516040/10002/-1?parentProductId=1560072

or these?
http://www.jegs.com/i/Black-Rock/262/909B516040/10002/-1?parentProductId=1560072

what ya guys think?

[VTCRAIG]

I think the black ones look sharp but both look too pretty to beat up on the trail. :driving:

[evolution]

yeah i goin to get the full black ones, like to have racelines but thats a good chunk of change..

i did get my tnt axle truss and locker/master install kit this week and already dropped it off for setup, the front im still doing a lil machine work on..

[evolution]

im workn on a trade for a set of weld racing Scorpio wheels for the jeep.. 15x10 6 lug.. if so im goin to make a set of bead locks and weld them on and have it powered coated flat black... just wont have a matching spare thou...

[YJeXtreme]

You like those High Dolla rims... LOL they're nice wheels, I'm assuming then, you'll be running aluminum locking rings too?

[evolution]

You like those High Dolla rims... LOL they're nice wheels, I'm assuming then, you'll be running aluminum locking rings too?
well, i got the wheels.. and yes i like my wheels.. it make the vehicle you have them on...lol.. and yes i will be putting bead-locks on them too.. just got to figure out what i want to jet into the outer ring.. im picky as hell... then get them power coated flat black... did i mention that i have the same wheels on my show truck too...lol

[evolution]

goin to be picking up a 98 durango from my cuz in DC soon... just needs ball joints to be driven, and its been taken well care of..gave up driving it for riding a bike to work..... he says it has the 5.9 v8 in it but im thinkn the last i saw it, it had the 5.2 in it.. but maybe in the near future i will have a donor for a v8 swap... did i mention for less than 500 bucks..
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[evolution]

been wanting to take the stinger off the jeep and do something like this but im not sure if im liking it.. it needs something else but i cant pin point it right now.. its not welded up at this point.. also ordered some vision x rock lights and have them already so i can put them weds...

[hadfield4wd]

I like it. Try putting a radius in the 2 straight bars. bend them out a little. Also can you tie them into the fenders for more support?

[evolution]

well, puter been out for awhile and just never gotten around to fixing it, but been busy on jeep thou, finished up the front bumper and did take out the straight tubes for bent ones up top..also was able to score on a set of 37" bfg km2 mudders with only 2000 miles on them and 18x9 xd series wheels there are brand new... got them for a real good price.. post pics later.. also have a guy thats buyn my axles under my jeep now and wants me to put the rear back stock and pay for the parts... so i ordered a set of mad 4x4 rear brackets and using them to make the 35 stock plus put the 9in with the spring perches and lca's on it.. taking the upper truss off and putting it on the 9in also... win win for both of us..lol.. anyways the front is getting tore down today and truss get welded on hopefully...

[evolution]

cleaned and cleaned on the axle today, all tore apart and fitted the truss bout 5 times before i was happy with it and welded most of it and finish the rest tomorrow so i wont warp anything.. finish it tomorrow and ready to setup the detroit and new 4:88s yukon gears..