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[Wildman]

Hey Guys,
Thanks again for the warm welcome. I think I’ve done my homework on lifting my 4dr automatic Rubi but I would like your input. I “plan” on doing the lift myself so…Look out!? I’m not a mechanic but I can handle most projects especially with step-by-step instruction. I just add the Wildman factor in and that usually calculates out to a couple more days to a project.
Anyway, here is what I am looking into:
Rubicon Express 3.5” Super Flex with either Rubicon Express mono, Poly Performance mono, or OME shocks.
http://www.rubiconexpress.com/SuspensionSystems/Product.aspx?part=re7143
This seems to be a fairly complete kit. It has adjustable uppers & fixed lowers. Will the adjustable uppers allow me to get my (geometry) right? It also has good step-by-step instructions. This is a plus for me.
Or
Poly Performance Synergy Stage II 3” lift with either Rubicon Express mono, Poly Performance mono, or OME shocks
http://www.polyperformance.com/showimages.php?id=16416
This seems to be a fairly complete kit too. Adjustable front & rear lowers. It does require some cutting mods. I’m not real comfortable with that. Not so good step-by-step instructions.
I plan on riding on my factory wheels and tires until the tires need to be replace or I can sell them. Then I will add aftermarket wheels 17 x 8 or 9 with Goodyear Duratrac tires 315/70R17. I wanted to have a tire not much over 34” tall. My hope is that I will not have to re-gear from my factory 4:10s.
Well that’s it. Let me know your thoughts, concerns, questions, dos, don’ts, etc..
Thanks,
Bill

[YJeXtreme]

In my Opinion Rubicon Expressis the way to go, they're top notch quality parts & work really well offroad.

[hadfield4wd]

You can't go wrong with either company. Just make a list of what is needed for a lift and what each one includes. like sway bar drops, etc.

[OverEasy]

In my Opinion Rubicon Expressis the way to go, they're top notch quality parts & work really well offroad.


You can't go wrong with either company. Just make a list of what is needed for a lift and what each one includes. like sway bar drops, etc.

I'm the same with these guys!

In my opinion, I would go with the RE lift. I'm not loyal to the brand thing, just the friends that have went with RE have been very pleased with their products. I helped my boss do the YJ conversion on his CJ with the RE full kit. Everything was good to go. Instructions couldn't have been simpler. And as far as the adjustable uppers, your geometry should stay within what you need.

But seriously, its give or take. Like hadfield said, check out what kits come with what and for what price. I don't think you would be unhappy with either.

[Wildman]

Honestly Guys,
I think I'm leaning toward the RE kit because it doesn't require any cutting / grinding. I really don't like making many mods that I can't easily undo if they turn out to be crap. The RE lift does have eight arms to change out and adjust instead of just the four lowers in the Poly Performance. It seems like it might be a better trade off to install more arms and have no cutting / grinding? Has anyone put this lift on their JK that could give me first hand experience & advice?

[xjtrailrider]

RE all the way, I have a hybrid RE lift on my Heep and would not have done a thing different. When I say hybrid its because the upper/lower arms and tac bar are JKS johnny jointed units and my shocks are OME Nitrochargers. I also have ACOS on the front and HD off road shackle brackets in the rear.

But the meat of the suspension are the RE springs and they ride good and flex great and hold their arch for a long time. I will replace my 4.5 superflex springs with another set when these take one too many flexes with 300#'s of gear in the back.

[Scrambled]

I have installed various lifts over the years and I have nothing but good things to say about RE. I have their 4.5" kit on my 83 CJ-8.

Another reason I like RE is their customer service is EXCELLENT!:2thumbsup:

Sounds like a good excuse for a wrenching party to me guys.:yup:

Later
Sean

[WahooJeep]

I've had good experience with my RE lift, but I thought I had read that the JK RE lift did not come with adjustable lowers, only adjustable uppers.

Also, 3.5" of lift is a lot of lift for the size tire you are planning on running. You want the least amount of lift to clear the tires. Low and stable is the way to go.

FWIW, my JK has the Teraflex lift, and it seems pretty nice.

Chris

[Wildman]

xjtrailrider
Thanks for the feedback. Hybrid...hum...I like that idea, get the best of each kit. I think I will look into that too.

WahooJeep
Go Hoos, sorry I had to put that in there, but the Hokies suck.
You're right the RE kit comes with adj uppers & fixed lowers.

Do I need both adj uppers and lowers or can I do all the adjustments with just adj lowers?:confused:

Thanks

[rubican!]

wanted to chime in hear. Have you looked at the tera flex 2.5 kits yet? IF you stay under 3 inchs you dont need control arms and all you need to run 35's is 2.5 i know cause i run rustys with pucks right at 2.5. IF i could do it over id gone tera flex but thats jsut me. 3.5 RE you can clear 37's easy. Your gonn ahve other problem if you go that high. that kit really yeilds about 4 inch's of lift until you get bumpers and armor etc. Youll need drive shafts all four control arms etc. If you plan on running 35's get a 2.5 teraflex sprin lift and fornt and read adj trac bars and your done. Maybe some 2 inch bump stop extensions. the 2.5 coil lift is $500 and the trac bars are 130 a piece so you can get everything you need and clear 35's with no rubbing for aorund 760.

I have 2 inch springs and 3/4 pucks and id say in the rear im right at 2.5 and im at 3 in the front. I do not need drive shafts (yet) and i dont feel like i need control arms. They would benice but not needed. If i got any higher then this it will be coil over.

[RUparrothead]

Go Hokies, sorry I had to put that in there.

Thanks

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[WahooJeep]

WahooJeep
Go Hoos, sorry I had to put that in there, but the Hokies suck.


:harhar::harhar::rotflmao5::rotflmao5::wings:




Do I need both adj uppers and lowers or can I do all the adjustments with just adj lowers?:confused:

Thanks


You cannot make all of the adjustments with only the uppers. You need adjustable lowers to adjust the caster. But, I really would consider a lift with less height.

[WahooJeep]

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Re-read his post. :harhar:

[RUparrothead]

Re-read his post. :harhar:

I see what you did there.

[Wildman]

WahooJeep:
Nice, you got me. :clap2:

You guys have me thinking now that I might be over killing it with this kit. Let me go with that for a second and you guys tell me if I'm off.
I get a standard 2.5" to 3" coil kit that uses the cam washers to adjust caster? (caster or camber which is it?)
I add adjustable lower arms front and back to avoid using the cam washers, right?
New shocks.
The 315/70 R17 tires I plan on getting aren't going to rub everywhere turning and flexing?

[rubican!]

STAY AWAY FROM CAM BOLTS. go 2.5 put the lif ton if you think you need front lowers after that spend the money. But do not do cam bolts. Once those wholes are made you have to weld a washer or somethign weird to get the original CA bolts back through. IF your playing with a 1500 budget you should have no problem going 2.5 WITH front lowers and rear uppers. As the other ones are not needed at 2.5 inchs's

[WilliamAWebb]

also---- most 2.5-3 inch coil springs are actually going to net you around 4 inches of lift. Most companies expect you to have bumpers, winch, skids etc so they make the springs a little bit more to compensate for this added weight. I have the teraflex 2.5 inch budget boost on my JK. Up front I added a 3/4 inch spacer to level out the front rake. I have not had any problems with driveshafts so far and I still have all oem control arms. I have adj lowers at home that I haven't put on yet because I don't want to fool with them until I go higher. I also added a 1inch performance accessories body lift to gain a little bit more clearance. I have never had any rubbing issues with mine before or after the lift and I am running BFG A/T 315/70/R17's.

I am getting ready to upgrade to 4inch coils and going adjustable control arms all around, new driveshafts, longer brake lines, draglink flip, adj trac bars, raise the track bar mount in the rear and some other stuff to address all the problems you get into once you go over 2.5-3 inches of lift.

If I were you I would go teraflex 2.5 in coil lift and go from there. If you feel that you want control arms after you put the new coils on, then go ahead and get them. Grow with your jeep so that you can get to know and feel it and see what it needs. I like piecing it together because it lets you wheel all sorts of different level trails as you build your rig up more and more.

Good luck with your decision.

[hadfield4wd]

You cannot make all of the adjustments with only the uppers. You need adjustable lowers to adjust the caster. But, I really would consider a lift with less height.

You can adjust caster with just uppers. Just not as much. Here is what caster is.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/hadfield4wd/Other%20Jeeps%20type%20pics/caster1.jpg

By shortening or lengthening you will rotate the axle.

I agree with too much lift as well for the tires.